Wednesday, August 31, 2011

Baderon of Monmouth

  • Born: 1112 in Monmouthshire, Wales
  • Died: BEF 1176 3
Notes [JW]
Thanks to Curt Hofemann for pointing out this post to SGM, 13 Aug 2002, by Christopher Nash:

From: Cristopher Nash (c@windsong.u-net.com)
Subject: Baderon & Roese de Monmouth
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2002-08-13 18:21:53 PST

W E Wightman,The Lacy Family (1966), usually reasonable, gave Roese [often 'Rose'] de Monmouth, wife of Hugh II de Lacy, as widow of Baderon de Monmouth (e.g. p. 206, citing Gilbert, Reg. Abbey St. Thos., Dublin, pp 13, 420).

Keats-Rohan, citing Dugdale and H. Guillotel*, has Roese as the daughter of Baderon (s. of William fitz Baderon, s. of Baderon, s. of Caradoc de La Boussac [near Dol, Ille-et-Vilaine]) and as da. of Roesia de Clare; DD, 591-2. (The early generations of this sequence are generally accepted in Breton histories.) The latter affiliation matches that given by Altschul and others (incl Weis AR7), many of whom present Roese's mother as Rohese de Clare, da. of Gilbert fitz Richard de Clare and Adeliza de Clermont.

Are we agreed that Wightman's positively in error? It would be good to know if anyone's seen the Reg. Abbey St. Thos., which Keats-Rohan and the others appear not to have consulted.

Cris
Sources:
  1. Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr., 1999
    Page: 177a-7
  2. Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
    Page: Christopher Nash, 13 Aug 2002
    Text: Baderon, son of William fitz Baderon
  3. Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr., 1999
    Page: 177a-7
    Text: 1170/6

SOURCE:  http://amjancestry.com/I07706.html

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